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strongs concordance Edit

RE:Disclaimer Edit

Friso Yoyon Schaap(Talk) • (Religion Wiki Administrator) 22:56, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

I would also like to point out that i have no opinion about nor any interest at all in history. my interest in entirely in the bible itself. Granpa 23:26, February 11, 2010 (UTC)


Concerning the wiki pages this is the only thing i have found http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Hit_counter I dont think this is working anymore.

The counters I have placed are on a the website which I am hosting myself. Religionwiki.net domain is not directly connected with http://religion.wikia.com. I am hosting the religionwiki.net server and wikia the wiki servers. This wiki was for a part originally hosted on my own server but I have merged that wiki with another religion wiki on Wikia and this is the result.----Friso Yoyon Schaap(Talk) • (Religion Wiki Administrator) 22:23, February 21, 2010 (UTC)


ReligionWiki:Templates Religionwiki: List Public domain image resources

botsEdit

About bots in this wiki. It is possible to setup bots inthis wiki. it is like the same on wikipedia you have to download the botsoftware and create a new account for the bot. I havent took the time yet to test it here but anyone here can make one. ----Friso Yoyon Schaap(Talk) • (Religion Wiki Administrator) 01:17, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

I'm removing these tables from 'Outline of the bible'Edit

Prophets
Abraham Gen 20:7
Aaron Ex 7:1
Miriam Ex 15:20
Deborah Judges 4:4
 ???? Judges 6:8
Samuel 1Sam 3:20
Saul 1Sam 10:11
Gad 1Sam 22:5
Nathan 2Sam 7:2
Ahijah 1Kings 11:29
(from Samaria)? 1Kings 13:11
Jehu 1Kings 16:7
Elijah 1Kings 18:36
Elisha 1Kings 19:16
 ???? 1Kings 20:13
Micaiah 1Kings 22:7
 ???? 2Kings 9:4
Huldah 2Kings 22:14
Shemaiah 2Chron 12:5
Iddo 2Chron 13:22
Azariah 2Chron 15:8
 ???? 2Chron 25:15
Obed 2Chron 28:9
Noadiah Nehemiah 6:14
Jeremiah Dan 9:2
John Mat 11:9
Jonah Mat 12:39
Daniel Mat 24:15
Elisha Luke 4:27
Abel Luke 11:50
Zechariah Luke 11:50
Seers
Samuel 1Sam 9:19
Zadok 2Sam 15:27
Gad 2Sam 24:11
Heman 1Chron 25:5
Iddo 2Chron 9:29
Hanani 2Chron 16:7
Jehu 2Chron 19:2
Asaph 2Chron 29:30
Jehuthun 2Chron 35:15
Amos amos 7:12
Joel Act 2:16
Samuel Acts 13:21
Isaiah Acts 28:25
2 witnesses Rev 11:10


OverviewEdit

prophet time
Isaiah 2Kings 19:2 Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, Hezekiah
Jeremiah son of Hilkiah priest at Anathoth 13th year of Josiah

till 5th month of 11th year of Zedekiah

Ezekiel Ez 2:5 (his?) 30th year 4th month 5th day of exile

(5th year of exile of Jehoiachin)

Hosea son of Beeri Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz and Hezekiah
Joel son of Pethuel
Amos shepherd of Tekoa 2 years before the earthquake

when Uzziah and Jeroboam were kings

Obadiah
Jonah son of Amittai 2Kings 14:25
Micah of Moresheth Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah
Nahum the Elkoshite
Habakkuk Hab 1:1
Zephaniah son of Cushi

of Gedaliah of Amariah of Hezekiah

Josiah
Haggai Hag 1:1 Ezra 5:1 2nd year of Darius 6th month 1st day.
Zechariah son of Berekiah son of Iddo

Zech 1:1 Ezra 5:1

2nd year of Darius 8th month
Malachi

Importing articles with full historyEdit

I really don't know very much about computers but clearly you are not supposed to import articles with full history. When editing some articles imported from Wikipedia, I've found it's taken a painfully slow time for changes to be saved. I get the distinct feeling that Wikia is intended for much shorter articles than Wikipedia.

I must say that I'm very happy to see articles on Egyptian and Greek gods coming onto here. Please keep it up. I hope that articles on Roman and Scandinavian gods will follow.Simon Peter Hughes 13:39, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Why is "Navy" here?Edit

Could you please explain why you added the article Navy? I can't see that it has any significant relation to religion.Simon Peter Hughes 13:48, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

I was importing wanted templates listed at Special:WantedTemplates or rather I thought i was. Template:navy is number four with 64 links. I accidently imported navy instead. http://religion.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Navy&limit=500 missing templates often result in pages not displaying correctly. Granpa 14:24, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Indeed they do. Thank you for the explanation. I suppose that's why City-state is here too. I'll go ahead and delete "Navy" straight away but I'll let "City-state" stay. mainly because the Vatican City is one. Simon Peter Hughes 15:40, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for deleting while I was struggling with getting the message right.Simon Peter Hughes 15:49, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the warningEdit

Thank you for the warning. As I understand it, he is only interested in rewriting a very small amount of the articles here. If his intention is to rewite the entire history of religion according to his theories, that's a different matter.

Of course, unlike Wikipedia, original research is permitted here and he isn't likely to experience the kind of editing wars he did on Wikipedia, due to the low number of regular editors. If he refuses to allow the opinion template to be put on his pages, that's a different matter.

Anyway, I certainly will keep an eye on him.Simon Peter Hughes 11:31, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

It's not that I don't care.
Firstly, I didn't want to stir up trouble before it arose, although it seems that it has arisen now.
Secondly, I don't know what is and what isn't mainstream Biblical sholarship. Unless a page says that Moses built a small helicopter to carry the Chosen People across the Red Sea or that the Promised Land is in Nicaragua, I'm not likely to see any problem with it. I can only suggest that you try to persuade someone else who you respect as a Biblical scholar to come over here as an editor too
I still hope that editing wars can be avoided and that reasonable civility can be maintained. I will take action if it isn't.Simon Peter Hughes 11:00, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
There are a lot of emails that you havent seen. I was very very patient and tried very hard to reason with him but he has made his intention perfectly clear. The one thing that really sends up the proverbial red flags for me is this theory of his that the exodus started at thebes rather than in the delta. Anything is possible but that does seem very unlikely to me. And it will certainly seem very very unlikely to our reader too. He must realize that yet he is totally inflexible. Granpa 11:45, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
You might want to consider the possibility that, for some bizarre reason known only to himself, he actually wants to get banned and will continue to act in a more and more disruptive manner until he achieves this end. Granpa 12:51, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
In his emails he makes it clear that he is an atheist and he blames theist fundamentalists for reverting all his edits. Its conceivable that he intent is to fill religion articles with nonsense so other atheists can then ridicule them claiming that they represent the beliefs of theists. In any event, allowing an atheist to write fringe theories to religion articles without making it clear that they are fringe theories and that they dont represent the established views of theists seems like a pretty questionable idea. See Wikipedia:Straw_man Granpa 13:01, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
I have left grandpa a message on my page offering to answer any questions he has about Thebes, the crossing from Thebes Red Sea port of Elim to Elat, the mortuary trade across the Red Sea to supply Karnak with its Frankincense and Myhr, Bitumen, Natron, ben jamin and linen in return for Nubian gold, the archaeology of Timnah, and the present archaeologiical discoveries relevant to this knowledge.
I can't understand the fears expressed in the above message or what is sending up his red flags other than that there is some missing data in his analysis. I do have some disdain for people who claim the Bible was written c 950 BC in Hebrew by Moses, and I don't consider reporting archaeology and history to be fringe even if it conflicts with what Josephus had to say. I should point out that aside from not being a person of the book I have studied the archaeology, history and theology involved, read the source material, checked the linguiatics in languages other than and including Hebrew, been to the area and have a fairly good knowledge of Egypts history, language, archaeology and culture.
I'm not engaged in any editing wars, simply putting information on talk pages and in a few cases correcting errors such as the misidentification of Tara, a station of the Exodus with Terah the father of Abraham or a speculation that relied heavily on the identification of Mount Sinai at the tip of the Arabian penninsula and in the same paragraph asserted that that identification was rejected by scholars and theologians making it internally inconsistant Rktect 13:24, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
You need to learn to indent your replies properly. Granpa 13:34, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
I am sorry if my bluntness offends you but I am only saying aloud what everyone here and at wikipedia must be thinking. You cannot reasonably expect people to think otherwise given your behavior. Granpa 15:25, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
  • I'm using the text appearance indent button and the preview window plus a bulleted list but not getting what I want
  • Here are a couple of Christian theological discussion websites discussing the yam Suph = Sea of Reeds and ::date of the Exodus issues. Though I don't find the reasoning or conclusions very persuasive ie; the Bible ::gives three consistant collaborative dates for an Exodus but people didn't have any capability of exactitude ::regarding time keeping back then; or the Bible uses Yam Suph which translates as Red Sea, consistant with ::the Greek name of the Erythrian Sea used in the periplus of the Erythrian Sea a well know reference work in ::the time the Documentary Hypothesis says that part of the Bible was written, it must mean sea of reeds ::because the Israelites lived in the delta and it would be too far for them to go to reach the Red Sea. I suggest ::them as a point of departure for the issues which have become a part of the folklore of the Exodus story.

Red linksEdit

I have followed the link that you left on my talk page. Thank you for including my suggestion about different colured links for articles on external wikis.

I'm sorry to point out that the Movie Wiki article about Avatar isn't copied from Wikipedia and all the red links are there deliberately, to encourage production of future articles. I don't know if it's any use to you but here's a nice neutral example, clearly illustrating the problem, that you could use in future, the Fishapedia article - "Octopus". The many red links include Bronze age Minoan Crete, Oxford Engish Dictionary, Hawai'ian creation myth and tennis ball, all articles that should never be on Fishapedia.

Thanks for your continued efforts to improve this wiki.Simon Peter Hughes 10:39, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

That EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thank you. Granpa 16:49, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your concern. "Removing red links" is a convenient editing summary but that's not the only thing that I'm doing. I'm also seeing if there's anything that needs correcting or could be rewritten in a clearer or more encyclopedic way. I'm removing poor quality external links and adding better ones. I've gone on to correct the original articles on Wikipedia too.

Besides which, I must admit that I quite enjoy it.Simon Peter Hughes 16:30, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Creation Wiki articlesEdit

There's absolutely no problem with importing articles from Creation Wiki. I thought that we already had a template for Creation Wiki, but we don't. Creation Wiki's copyright policy requires attribution, in the form of a link back to the original, when an article is copied.

I think a lot of their articles would require the opinion template but I see no reason not to copy them. Simon Peter Hughes 13:20, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Not displaying properly?Edit

It seems to look fine on my computer. The scroll bar's there for me. I looked at five random wikis earlier today and clicked to edit a page on each one of them. They all looked exactly the same as this one.

What do you expect to find in left and right sidebars? As I understand it, with the new look, the left sidebar has disappeared. The right sidebar has links to featured wikis and, if you're not logged in, commercials. If you're logged in, you don't see the commercials, you see a big white space instead.

I have edited the main page because the panoramic picture didn't fit in with the new look. The opinion templates are now also much too big. Perhaps you know how to make them smaller.

I have contacted Wikia saying that I think you should be an administrator. You know much more about religion and computers than I do and perhaps you could catch the vandals and spammers when it's time to sleep in my time zone. I can't give you the rights myself because I'm not a bureaucrat.Simon Peter Hughes 11:26, October 12, 2010 (UTC)


http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Religion_wiki_not_displaying_correctly_with_new_look Granpa 11:29, October 12, 2010 (UTC)
I think you overestimate my knowledge of religion and computers.
I did the best I could with the opinion template.
Please realize that I dont have an artistic bone anywhere in my body.
You might want to have someone more artistic to work on it.
Granpa 16:54, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

I think I should tell you Edit

I think I should tell you that I am unable to contribute very much at the moment because my computer has a virus. Hopefully, it will be fixed soon. I am writing this at work. I don't get the chance to do that very often, I'm not used to this keyboard and some articles don't seem to edit well here.

I have found some (but not many) external references for Levianism. It seems that it is a genuine religion, albeit a small one. I don't think that it deserves its own portal, though, and the articles will definitely require some clean-up.

thanks for your continued work here.Simon Peter Hughes 11:51, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

I found only a couple of papers on the internet and I didnt buy them at all.
I think they are just as fake as the article here.
If your computer has a virus then you should seriously consider going to ubuntu.
Its free.
Its easy.
Its virus free.
Granpa 23:12, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

My computer's fixed and I'm back.

One of the things that i've come top realise over the past year is that just because a religion has its own website doesn't mean it's real. So, you're probably right. I will investigate further.Simon Peter Hughes 12:37, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Optical illusions copyrightEdit

I very much doubt that any of those optical illusions are under copyright. I don't think you have anything to fear from putting one on here. --Simon Peter Hughes 13:34, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

TranscludesEdit

If your transcludes are meant to be regular articles, they are going to have to be caregorized. --Simon Peter Hughes 04:27, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

No, they are definitely not regular articles. They arent even regular templates.
They are factoids. A convenient place to put short summaries of information
which can then be transcluded into articles.
See Transclude
I've been transcluding them into refs here
Granpa 08:59, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
You might not intend them to be regular articles but as far as the wiki software is concerned they are regular pages. They need to be categorized. --Simon Peter Hughes 08:20, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for taking care of it. --Simon Peter Hughes 13:33, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

No harm done!Edit

I've checked every article in the category Lists of deities. The only one that I had edited before was Egyptian pantheon. No other edits I made have been undone. I can't see that any damage has been done. --Simon Peter Hughes 05:34, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not a big fan of the new editor either but...Edit

I'm not a big fan of the new editor either but, presumably, soon we'll have no choice but to use it, probably in a slightly modified form. I think it's best to start getting used to it now.

Thank you very much for keeping me informed about what was going on.--Simon Peter Hughes 14:41, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Public domain? Edit

Certianly any of Plato's writings in the original ancient Greek are public domain but English translations are a different matter. If the translation was published before 1923 or if the translator has been dead for more than a hundred years, then it's definitely public domain. Can you check if your text fulfills that? Simon Peter Hughes 04:59, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

according to Wikipedia:Benjamin_Jowett he died in 1893.
its also at classicreader.com and it says that all books there are public domain.
In which case, that's obviously all right. --Simon Peter Hughes 04:54, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

It's not linking to Wikipedia for me Edit

I don't know about on your computer (or anybody else's in the world, for that matter) but on my computer, when I click on the black underlined words instead of being taken to Wikipedia I am offered the opportunity of creating a new page. For me, the red links have become underlined black links but otherwise it's exactly the same.Simon Peter Hughes 10:58, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

you probably need to clear your cache. There are instructions on how to do this on your user css page. Even then this software can be flaky so dont be surprised if it takes a while to come out right.
Granpa 11:10, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Videos are good! Edit

Very few pages use them? Yes, I suppose so but I added videos to as many articles as I could, including "My Yiddishe Momme", The Merchant of Venice, Waiting for Godot, Ghost Festival and Halloween. I added videos of the flag and national anthem to articles about countries from Andorra to Zimbabwe. A lot of those national anthem videos have been deleted from YouTube. I should replace them when I get around to it.

That's one problem with videos not being hosted on Wikia. If the video is deleted on its original site you just get a black screen and a message that it's no longer available here. There are also a small number of YouTube videos that can not be embedded because the uploader requested that. It looks like the video has been successfully added but when you click on play you get a message that you have to go to YouTube to watch it.

Another problem is finding good and appropriate videos. I looked for ones for Valentine's Day and Saint Patrick's Day but I couldn't find anythoing of good enough quality. I think it would be very difficult to find a video for Hippolyta or Brokkr, for example. There probably is a video for Priapus but it would be too shocking for a lot of our readers!

Still, if you want to add more videos, that would be great! I know that there's no need to add any attribution but we have the {{youtube}} template, so we might as well use it. Having the YouTube template and another wiki template on the page helps to give the appearance that we're bringing together differenet bits and pieces from the internet to create something new.

While I'm here, I'll say that the List of legendary creatures article that you recently added is essentially a blank page because it consists of links to 25 other pages, List of legendary creatures (A), List of legendary creatures (B) and so on for every letter except X, that aren't on this wiki yet. --Simon Peter Hughes 04:50, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for taking care of that!--Simon Peter Hughes 14:21, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Curious goings onEdit

I'll remind you that only admins are able to delete pages. I guess that user was only trying to help. I hope so.

Thank you for taking care of that vandalism spree, by the way.--Simon Peter Hughes 14:53, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

re: chat? Edit

Hello. I was just sorta curious why Chat is not enabled on this wiki?

Darkseid01 14:04, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

To try to answer your question Edit

I really don't think it matters what license you choose. Everything that's posted on Wikia is supposed to be in the public domain. Any time that you post anything on here, you are effectively giving everyone else permission to copy it and do what they like with it. Simon Peter Hughes 14:06, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

join Edit

join us at thebible study wikia we would be happy for u to join

I have decided to delete all the pages from WikiIslam Edit

Most of the vandalism that we have had in the past two years has been directed at articles imported from WikiIslam and I can't say I'm surprised. In my opinion, it's nothing but an anti-Islamic hate site. We don't have many articles that are critical of other religions but we have hundreds that say rude things about Islam and Muslims. I have decided to delete every article copied from WikiIslam, to prevent causing any further needless offense.

One of the Wikiislam articles is Alexander the Great. You might like to import the Wikipedia article about him, because a lot of the articles about Greek and Roman mythology link to it.

In fact, you might like to import some more balanced articles about Islam.--Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 08:46, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much for importing the Alexander the Great page so quickly.--Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 09:39, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

The IceQueenEdit

Y'know, there IS a big button at the top that says "EDIT."

Editing one little section at a time is just cheating...

~An Atheist Girl

The above was added by The_IceQueen
I have no idea what shes talking about
Granpa (talk) 01:03, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

We are now linked to Wikimedia Commons Edit

Grandpa

File "Grandpa" from Wikimedia Commons.

I asked Wikia staff to set up Wikimedia Commons as an image repository for this and the other four wikis where I have admin rights. This means that in future, except on rare occasions when an image has been uploaded to the English Wikipedia but not to Commons, every page that you copy from Wikipedia will come with the images intact. You will also be able to add any image from Wikimedia Commons to any page here just by entering the file name from Commons, without having to copy it to your computer and then adding it here. It should make this place look a lot better!--Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 06:01, September 18, 2012 (UTC)


I love it.
Granpa (talk) 07:03, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

Can I point this out? Edit

Can I point this out? Although we have articles about Faunus and satyrs, we still don't have one about Pan. Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 04:54, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for filling that gap.--Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 13:38, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Happy New Year Edit

PostcardAHappyNewYear1912

Making use of this image from Wikimedia Commons, I'd like to wish you all the very best for 2013 and thank you for your continued interest in this wiki and your efforts to build it. Happy New Year! --Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 08:39, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

BiblicalapediaEdit

By looking at your contributions you seemed to be very intrested in the Bible. There is a bible wiki called Biblicalapedia that I think you would be intrested in.I was also wondering if perhaps we could advertise each others wikis and such or link to it. I see you have made some edits there a while back.Thanks Superdadsuper Biblicalapedia Administrator User Talk:Superdadsuper 17:12, June 28, 2013 (UTC)

Attribution Edit

Yes, I think you should definitely add a note to the end of the pages saying which website you copied the texts from.

I will point out that you could have copied translations of those texts from Wikisource and that we already have a template for that. Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 04:20, August 28, 2013 (UTC)

TestEdit

Norse cosmology

PromotionsEdit

Hi. I was wondering if perhaps your wiki andmy wiki  could perhaps do cross-wiki promotions?

Thanks Superdadsuper Biblicalapedia Administrator User Talk:Superdadsuper 19:40, October 31, 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year! Edit

PostcardHappyNewYearOldManKidScytheHourglass1910

Thank you for keeping this wiki active and making it continue to grow. I wish you all the very best for a fantastic 2014. Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 06:09, December 29, 2013 (UTC)

Could you possibly import this? Edit

Recently, I very reluctantly had to undo some messy editing to Islamic Golden Age. I hated restoring the biased and mean-spirited version from Conservapedia but didn't have any choice.

Could you possibly import the Wikipedia article Islamic Golden Age to replace it? I tried to do it myself but I didn't have a clue what I was doing. Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 12:59, June 8, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much for doing that. Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 12:56, June 9, 2014 (UTC)

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