Talk:Christian Apologetics

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Hi - someone tried to split "Limited Salvation and Eternal Damnation" - but these are logically one topic since one implies the other. Please see the page that's linked. cesareborgia

[edit] perhaps another way to think about it

(haha, that was me.) Perhaps there is another way to think about it. To me, you can talk about why Christians believe damnation should be eternal separately from why Christians believe salvation comes only through Jesus Christ. You are right, they are related. And the answer for one has implications for the other. My answer to the two questions would cover the eternal damnation first and only-one-way-to-be-saved second... Antlipups 13:24, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

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Even without the idea of infinite obligation, it appears a single sin is sufficient to merit infinite punishment. James 2:10 might be relevant. "For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it." (TO-DO: Need to understand why this verse says this.)

This doesn't answer the point. For purposes of apologetics, you can't answer the point simply by quoting a Bible verse that simply restates the point. Let's agree on that principle. But it's important to cite the relevant verses, so this citing James is good.

Definitely agree. Basically the TO-DO item is to find out whether James 2:10 is relevant or helpful for the purpose of this rejoinder.

[edit] Construction zone: response to Even if there is an infinite obligation to obey God, violations cannot call for eternal hellfire

Some ideas:

1. The objection values the rights of humanity. What rights does humanity have before God from a biblical point of view and is it at least understandable to those who disagree? The view may likely be repugnant for many readers but is it understandable?

1. The primary goal of God from this rejoinder's point of view is to uphold the worthiness of God appropriately. He is more excellent than any other being by an infinite degree. Two things appropriately demonstrate that worthiness: the eternal suffering of sinners in hell and the sacrifice of Christ on the cross.