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The Rev. Alfred Paul Seiwert-Fleige is a traditional catholic priest and former Palmarian Catholic/Carmelite Holy Face Order and later on Traditionalist Catholic bishop (vagant) who resides in Rosenheim, Germany.

He was ordained a priest by Traditional Catholic Archbishop Ngo Dinh Thuc for the Carmelite Order of the Holy Face (an religious congegration within the Independent Catholic movement) on December 31, 1975 and later Antipope Dominguez consecrated him a bishop for his Palmarian Catholic Church on November 1, 1978 at El Palmar de Troya, Spain. In 1980 Seiwert-Fleige left the Palmarian movement.

Bishop Jean-Gérard Roux (not in communion with the Holy See)later re-consecrated him conditionally on April 8, 1995.

On various internet pages it is said that he eventually reconciled with the Holy See under Pope John Paul II and publicly concelebrated at a papal Mass and that he was regularised as a priest, and therefore his Holy Orders were not regarded as invalid, though his episcopal orders seem to have been suppressed. From this assertion it is the deduced that he would be one of the first of the Thuc-line clergy to be regularised and fully recognised by the Holy See. He continues to function as a priest at Rosenheim, near Munich, Bavaria, Federal Republic of Germany. These informations however are quite incorrect. To start with, his place of residence is Rosenheim (Westerwald), which is far from Bavaria, and the above mentioned photograph is only proof of the fact that Seiwert managed to get himself into a Papal Liturgy, during which he then was taken a picture of. However, there is no official statement whatsoever about his reconciliation with the Catholic Church. And thus, from the catholic point of view, he should not be considered a clergyman or even a member of the Church. Instead, several Dioceses in Germany have put out warnings against his illicit activities bu which some priests and faithful have already been deceived, sometimes not without spiritual or financial damage.

Episcopal Lineage
Consecrated by: Clemente Domínguez y Gómez
Date of consecration: November 1, 1978
Consecrator of
Bishop Date of consecration
Charles Ignanga June 26, 1994
Picture of Rev. Fr. Seiwert Fleige with Pope John Paul II at St. Peter's Square, Papal Mass, Rome, 2001:
http://www.wandea.org.pl/IMAGES2/john-paul-ii.jpg


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